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As part of my research for my series on The Fine Art of Self-Promotion, I’ve been looking at some of the things writers do on their blogs which (in my opinion at least) risks putting off their readers. If you’ve got a minute, I’d appreciate your input:




From the list below, please mark any of the things which have lowered (or would lower) your opinion of a blogger on your friends list.

If they used foul language
0(0.0%)
If they ignored most or all comments (including yours)
2(1.3%)
If they insulted or mocked other bloggers who disagreed with them
0(0.0%)
If they didn’t friend you back, even though you made regular comments on their blog
0(0.0%)
If all their posts seemed to be about where to buy their book, read their story or interview etc.
0(0.0%)
If they posted something spiteful about someone else
1(0.6%)
If they expressed opposing political/religious opinions to yours, but did so in a reasonable manner
0(0.0%)
If they expressed opposing political/religious opinions to yours in an obnoxious manner
1(0.6%)
None of the above would lower my opinion.
1(0.6%)

Have you ever unfriended someone because they do any (or all) of the above?

Yes
85(54.1%)
No
72(45.9%)

Do you have people on your friends list whose posts you no longer read because they do any (or all) of the above?

Yes
64(41.0%)
No
92(59.0%)



As always, comments are welcome, but please don’t name names.


Thanks in advance for your help.

EXTRA BIT:
In preparation for her panel at PhilCon this weekend, my friend,[info]alycewilson, is asking for a little feedback from bloggers too. If you care to pop over and take her poll as well, I'm sure she'd appreciate your input.



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ex_naomi_ja
Nov. 18th, 2009 01:53 pm (UTC)
Lol, I'm working so hard on not swearing in my lj now I know my dad reads it... But it doesn't put me off other blogs at all, unless I think it's done purely to shock. A lot of people swear *shrugs* I don't think it makes them unpleasant people necessarily.
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 02:03 pm (UTC)
The 'f' word kicks my eye right off the page. The 'c' word has me reaching for the unfriend button.

That's not to say that I never swear. I've been know to let out the odd 'dang', and even a 'blinking flip' when the occasion calls for it, but I do feel cussing is overused these days.
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dqg_neal
Nov. 18th, 2009 02:15 pm (UTC)
You missed the option of:
It is already so low, it couldn't get any lower. *grin*
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 02:16 pm (UTC)
Lol :)
j_cheney
Nov. 18th, 2009 02:19 pm (UTC)
Sadly, I've unfriended some people because of excessive posting. Long rambling posts, several times a day, never behind a cut.

I also have to admit that I'm not too interested in reading about political views, so I generally scroll over any political post.
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 02:27 pm (UTC)
I do have a little sympathy for those guilty of the 'not putting posts behind the cut' thing. I've spent literaly hours trying to get it to work for me, but the darn thing won't co-operate. On the other hand, too many posts, really does spoil the blog, as they say.

Thanks for sharing :)
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temporus
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:03 pm (UTC)
My main answer will be: it depends. Foul language doesn't bother me much if at all. I try not to use it too much in my own writing, but that's from the point of view that I always assume that at some point my mom or dad might read what I write, and I know neither of them approve of foul language. (My father has been known to use heck, because hell is too strong a word and he saves it for when it's important.)

I don't mind politics, but if the politics is only a way of bashing people, it will turn me off. Depending on the situation it might just mean I skip those posts. But in one case, for an author that I grew up admiring greatly, after running across post after post after post of nothing but Obama bashing, I had enough and unfriended him. Not because his politics were different from mine, but because there wasn't anything else there. I get that people have a right to differing opinions, but there's a difference between an occasional potshot or snarky comment and relentless bashing. I'd have found a blog with nothing but Bush bashing equally boring, and would probably have just as likely done the same thing.
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:15 pm (UTC)
I try to think of blogs as people (sad, I know). For example; in real life, if people only ever talked about where their book could be bought etc, we'd soon start avoiding them.

Hope that makes sense. Thanks for sharing, Ed :)
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serge_lj
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:07 pm (UTC)
I'm no good at taking surveys because I always go yes-but. Take foul language. It can be quite a dramatic way to emphasize a point, but not if every other word in a sentence is a four-letter one and it's not 'free'.
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:16 pm (UTC)
Lol, the curse of seeing both sides of an argument, I know how that feels :)
coneycat
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:15 pm (UTC)
I've kept people on my friends-list even though I disagreed with their politics--and I've removed people whose politics I agreed with, because they were obnoxious and/or self-righteous about it.

I find it hard to quantify what causes me to check out on a blog because so much is a matter of tone. There are people who write about topics I am interested in, and yet I find something about their style off-putting. Self-congratulation annoys me tremendously, I guess I can state that. But it's my interpretation of the tone, so what puts me off may not bother someone else.

Swearing in and of itself doesn't bother me in the slightest, although again, the underlying tone can drive me away.

My own LJ is pretty much strictly a place to rant, so if I'm ever published I may have to think about that. However, I figure I'll drive off that bridge when and if I come to it!
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:19 pm (UTC)
Well, it's not like your LJ name's your real life one. You can always start afresh when you make it big. Who's to say J K Rowling wasn't mrsgrumpychops on Facebook, or something like that before she got famous? ;)

Thanks for the input :)
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wendigomountain
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:18 pm (UTC)
I know I have been guilty of using the F word numerous times, but I'm right with you on the C word. It's just obnoxious swearing. And as far as politics go, I'm as inclined to unfriend someone who bashes the President as I am someone who constantly praises him. Come on, folks, I get enough political shilling from the nightly news.

The worst posts, I think, are the ones where the person is talking about where to buy their book, how great their book is, book book book. It's as cloying as someone who just got a new boyfriend/girlfriend/baby and won't shut up about it. Yes, promote your works, but the best promotion, after a point, is having someone else go on and on about your work. After that, it's just vanity.
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:22 pm (UTC)
From the voting so far, swearing seems to bother me more than others. Then again, my old gran always said I was a delicate flower - well, actually her exact words were "Delicate f*#%@ng flower" ;)
asakiyume
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:26 pm (UTC)
I don't like excessive foul language, but I didn't mark that down because I don't mind a *little* foul language, and I can put up with more than a little if the person is saying interesting things.

I wouldn't say that my opinion of bloggers who don't respond (much) to comments goes down, but I definitely highly appreciate bloggers who do respond. If I've chosen to read a blog, I'll probably keep reading it even if the blogger never responds to my comments--but I'll probably stop leaving comments, and I'll feel less involved.

I've only unfriended people for three reasons. In one case, it was because of a general tone of negativity that I found was bringing me down. In another, it was because the blogger called me stupid when I made a remark that the blogger took to be critical (though I hadn't intended it that way). In a couple of other cases, it was because the bloggers posted many, many times a day, and I felt I was drowning in their posts. I guess I've dropped a couple of blogs, too, where the blogger never friended back and I lost interest in reading.
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:31 pm (UTC)
Ooh, I forgot 'depressing'. Thankfully, I haven't come across anyone like that online, though I'm sure they're out there.

That's not to say I don't empathize with those who're suffering, and Lord knows there are plenty, but just like in real life, some folks do seem to revel in it.
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the_faery_queen
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:29 pm (UTC)
i hate unfriending people because i feel guilty!
on a writing front, if they're a fellow writer, then i would keep them around, even if all they did was promote, even tho i wouldn't care less about that promotion.
but if they were just a person person, and all they did was boast and talk about themselves, well i'd want to unfriend them (but guilt wouldf set in)
tchernabyelo
Nov. 18th, 2009 04:31 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I identify with the guilt thing. "What will they think, will they be offended?!" even though they have 437 other people reading their blog every day and don't know me at all...
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heleninwales
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:32 pm (UTC)
Just a point re the swearing. I have no objection to strong language if it's appropriate in the context, but I would be likely to stop reading someone whose LJ or blog was peppered with gratuitous swear words.
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 05:41 pm (UTC)
Thanks for sharing, Helen :) I probably should have made that swearing one a bit more clear. I don't mind the occasional rude word, but some words (like the 'f' one) just seem to kick my eyes off the page.
cathschaffstump
Nov. 18th, 2009 03:58 pm (UTC)
For the writing journal, professionalism is my watchword. Would you want your potential agent, publisher, or editor reading what you've written? If the answer is no, you probably shouldn't write it.

Catherine
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 05:42 pm (UTC)
That sounds like good advice to me.

Thanks for the input :)
jdawson001
Nov. 18th, 2009 04:02 pm (UTC)
I voted for alot of things that would lower my opinion, but I've never had any of it noticeably happen on any of the friends I follow. I apparently have good taste in friends.

It would have to happen repeatedly for me to cross someone off my list, though, because I have a high tolerance for idiocy and poor manners;)

Jenn
jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 05:45 pm (UTC)
'...It would have to happen repeatedly for me to cross someone off my list...'

It's interesting that about half of those who've voted (at least at the time of writing) say there are people who they don't actually unfriend, but nevertheless stop reading their journal. As you say, I think it happens over time, possibly even without realizing it.

Thanks for sharing :)
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jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 05:47 pm (UTC)
I guess that old saying about never discussing politics and religion is true.

Love that icon by the way. I got into Joss Whedon via Season five of Angel, then Buffy, and then of course Firefly.

Spike and Angel had some of the best bickering on TV :)
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tchernabyelo
Nov. 18th, 2009 04:24 pm (UTC)
Interesting poll.

There is one writer on my flist who I find at times intensely irritating due to a weird passive-aggressive style of blogging (regular "oh, my writing is terrible, I'm so rubbish!" posts inevitably receiving dozens of supportive "you're really great and we love you" comments from fans/friends, and equally regular "look at the nifty thing I did in my writing today, I'm so awesome!" posts, inevitably receiving dozens of supportive "you're really great and we love you!" comments from fans/friends). I continue to read because the writer in question IS very talented and successful and I can learn from peple without agreeing with their style (and to some extent I can understand the style - it IS the writer's fate to veer between thinking they are great and thinking they are worthless. I suspect it is more the hagiographic commenters, in fact, than the blogger itself that is the source of my irritation - and even that may be rooted in jealousy as I don't have hagiographic fans...).

jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 05:50 pm (UTC)
'...even that may be rooted in jealousy as I don't have hagiographic fans...'

At least you know what 'hagiographic' means. I had to look it up, and I still don't understand :(
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jongibbs
Nov. 18th, 2009 05:53 pm (UTC)
Sounds reasonable to me.

Just from a purely logical point of view, I can't understand why any writer would insult someone on their blog - especially those who aren't earning enough to write full time. You turn a probable reader into a definite non-reader with a few silly words. And it's not just that person you offend,others notice too. I know I have.
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