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The Best Post I Never Wrote

I normally post on a Wednesday, but I missed yesterday's when I finally succumbed to the dreaded lurgy which has been trying to pull me down since before Senior Management returned from her trip to England.  While not exactly bed-ridden, I've gone through most of the last week or so, barely able to string coherent sentences together for more than a few minutes at a time [nothing new there, I know, but this time I've had an excuse].

I had planned to post something about the (in my opinion) jaw-dropping double standards which certain members of the celebrity/media circle seem to want to apply to Roman Polanski, regarding his fugitive from justice status. 

An excellent blog-entry, full of scathing wit and insightful, wisdomous musings, I'm sure you'd have loved it.  However, scanning through my friends list, I saw that first saycestsay, and then jimhines(who said exactly what I wanted to say, only in a better, smarter way) beat me to the punch, so I gave up.    Instead, I recommend you read both their posts on the subject.  You can find Kelly's here, and Jim's here.

That said, I'm still appalled at the apparent lack of concern about applying justice to a man who drugged a 13-year-old girl, then had sex with her before fleeing the country to avoid jail.

How anyone can defend his actions, beats the heck out of me.





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peadarog
Oct. 1st, 2009 07:14 am (UTC)
I've been puzzled by this myself, I must say. At first, when I saw the reactions, I thought maybe he'd been set up or something, or that he wasn't aware of her age*. But no, none of those. I love his work, a terrible thing happened to his wife and unborn child. It's still indefensible.


*Not an excuse, of course, but possibly a basis for an argument.
jongibbs
Oct. 1st, 2009 07:36 am (UTC)
It's not often I'm lost for words, but I listened to a female attorney spouting some of the 'Her mom encouraged it', 'The girl doesn't want to push this' arguments and I was stunned.

I had to rewind the DVR thingy to make sure I'd heard it right. I ended up shouting "What if it was your kid?" at the telly.
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jl_johnson
Oct. 1st, 2009 07:23 am (UTC)
I read Jim's post the other day, and the one that caught my attention was the last. It's a horrible mindset that we've fallen into, and it encompases not ony rape, but other social problems as well; 'if it doesn't affect my family, then I don't care' will be our epitaph.
jongibbs
Oct. 1st, 2009 07:40 am (UTC)
My brain's still a bit foggy, but you make me think of that famous quote about how all it takes for evil to flourish if for good people to stand around and do nothing.

Thanks for sharing :)
mmerriam
Oct. 1st, 2009 07:45 am (UTC)
How anyone can defend his actions, beats the heck out of me.

Every time I read or hear someone trying to defend him, I want to grab them by the collar, shake them a couple of time and and yell, "He raped a 13-year old! What part of rape do you not understand?"


Edited at 2009-10-01 11:45 am (UTC)
jongibbs
Oct. 1st, 2009 12:06 pm (UTC)
As a father of teenage daughters, I couldn't agree more.
karen_w_newton
Oct. 1st, 2009 08:11 am (UTC)
This SLATE article by Kate Harding says it all. She actually describes what happened, too, which is a real shock if you don't know the facts. I think Hollywood is so defensive about this because it illustrates what people with talent, money, and influence think they can get away with-- and often do get away with, in Hollywood.
jongibbs
Oct. 1st, 2009 03:29 pm (UTC)
How anyone can condone a 40-something guy first drugging, then sodomizing a 13-yr-old against her will is beyond me.
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ajjones
Oct. 1st, 2009 08:43 am (UTC)
This is so bizarre because I remember it being talked about when I was a little girl. That's a long time to let someone get away with something like that over a technicality.
jongibbs
Oct. 1st, 2009 03:29 pm (UTC)
I can't believe they only gave him 40 days the first time around.
bogwitch64
Oct. 1st, 2009 09:02 am (UTC)
Let me begin with this statement: I am not defending Polanski! I don't believe he should walk because he's famous and it was a long time ago and because his wife and unborn child were brutally murdered. What bothers me is how the justice system is being used and misused to once again create a media circus that has everyone up in arms. That being said:

This is a strange and convoluted case from which very few, including me, have all the facts. I don't know enough of the details to make any sort of judgement about Polanski, even in my own mind. But I am a lawyer's daughter--a criminal defense lawyer's daughter. I grew up listening to my father discuss cases in which he knew the accused was guilty, and when he truly felt they were not guilty. One thing I learned is that just because Polanski pled guilty doesn't necessarily mean he actually was (and I'm NOT saying he wasn't!) If his lawyer convinced him it would all go away if he pled guilty, he would do so even if he weren't. The original sentence was a 42 day evaluation, after which he would have recieved counseling and some other wrist-slap. Once the plea was entered and tried, the judge changed his mind. Polanski fled.

I don't know if he raped the child or not. I don't know how the mother was involved. I don't know what sort of court shenanigans went on. One way or another, the child was the victim even if it turns out she lied upon the urging of her mother. Being 'paid' for it doesn't negate any wrong-doing. But in the end, Polanski was convicted, fled and now he's caught. That's done with. What needs to happen now is an investigation into the original case. Because a mistrial is a mistrial and heinous crime against the justice system whether the accused in question is famous or not.
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jongibbs
Oct. 1st, 2009 03:33 pm (UTC)
There's a strong liberal movement to allow underage pregnancies to be aborted without the consent or knowledge of the child's parents. That tells me everything I need to know about how some people view underage sex.

Thanks for the link :)
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saycestsay
Oct. 1st, 2009 11:57 am (UTC)
Thanks for the shout out.

This truly isn't about the rape any longer; he committed rape on a child (I believe the official charge was "sex with a minor," and the other, nastier charges were dropped), he admitted it in his plea bargain and was sentenced... he fled jurisdiction and the US before serving his relatively tiny sentence.

The issue is, he's a fugitive from justice. And a wanker.
jongibbs
Oct. 1st, 2009 03:34 pm (UTC)
You're welcome.

And I agree, on both counts :)
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jongibbs
Oct. 1st, 2009 03:36 pm (UTC)
I agree. I can see how knowing about someone's troubled past can help us understand why some people act in a certain way, but I've never understood when it's used to excuse it.
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jongibbs
Oct. 2nd, 2009 04:55 pm (UTC)
I know what you mean. Even after the facts of the case have been back in the public eye, there are still people defending him.

Unbelievable.
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