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As many of you already know, LiveJournal came under another DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack by hackers this week. This has happened before and will almost certainly happen again.

LiveJournal’s unlikely to go down without a fight, but if the same political regime is indeed responsible for this second round of attacks – which pretty much crippled LJ for the best part of four days this last week – I don’t see them stopping anytime soon.

Caught in the middle are nearly forty million LiveJournal users. Regular folks like you and me, with no particular axe to grind, all we want is to post on our own blogs and read our friends’.

A few people have already left. For most of them, I suspect the recent problems provided a final nudge rather than a compelling reason, but if the attacks continue to close down LJ for days at a time, there’ll come a point when the rest of us have to ask ourselves if we should leave too.

Personally, I intend to stay to the bitter end. If the outages were due to inefficiency or financial greed on LJ’s part, I’d feel different, but from what I understand, LiveJournal is the victim of a politically motivated attack (see this Time magazine article from back in April).

Besides, if everyone abandons LJ for the (supposedly) greener pastures of Dreamwidth, Wordpress or Blogspot etc., who’s to say those blog hosts won’t come under attack next?

The hackers aren’t trying to close down LJ for the fun of it, they’re trying to silence the online voices of millions of Russian bloggers. If they succeed in shutting down LiveJournal, they’ll then have to attack whichever online journal host those Russian bloggers move to next.

Depending on how bad things get, I may well have to start mirroring my blog posts elsewhere, but if the good ship, LiveJournal, really has hit an iceberg in the form of the Russian government, put me down for lessons in deckchair arranging, ‘cause I’m not heading for the lifeboats anytime soon.

How about you?

Poll #1765507 DDoS attacks on LiveJournal

Will you stick with LiveJournal if these hacking attacks continue to disrupt service?

Yes. They’ll have to prize my LJ blog from my cold dead fingers.
If they keep losing service because of all these attacks I’ll probably mirror my posts elsewhere, but I won’t close my account.
I’m already headin’ out the door.
There’s been a loss of service here on LJ?
Something else, which I’ll mention in the comments.

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Jul. 30th, 2011 02:16 pm (UTC)
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!

Will you join in our crusade?
Who will be strong and stand with me?
Beyond the barricade
Is there a world you long to see?
Then join in the fight
That will give you the right to be free!

French Revolution, American, Russian, LiveJournal...whatever it is, it's a great battle song, eh?

Jul. 30th, 2011 02:46 pm (UTC)
It's catchy enough, but without the sparkles, it just doesn't do it for me I'm afraid ;)
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Jul. 30th, 2011 02:35 pm (UTC)
If it's politically motivated, all the more reason for someone in another part of the world to stand firm. Seems to me, one of the reasons they'd disrupt service is to convince folks unaware of the politics to get disgusted and leave. And thereby to cripple the financial security of the company.

I'm there, Walkabout Farm is here, and that's that.

Jul. 30th, 2011 02:48 pm (UTC)
Seems to me, one of the reasons they'd disrupt service is to convince folks unaware of the politics to get disgusted and leave.

I think you're right. Sadly many of them probably will leave, along with many more who care about these things with a passion - so long as it doesn't actually affect them in a negative way.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Jul. 30th, 2011 02:47 pm (UTC)
I had this to say about it.

But I do urge everyone here to set up a DW account
to remain in communication during these attacks.
Jul. 30th, 2011 02:51 pm (UTC)
I suspect if LJ goes down, the attacks will follow the Russian bloggers to whichever host they move to.
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Jul. 30th, 2011 02:55 pm (UTC)
I'm already heading out the door, but not because of this issue or similar ones. I started leaving a year or two ago, mainly because I don't trust *any* service to keep my content.

So I now post to my self-hosted Wordpress blog, which copies it here, and used to copy it to Dreamwidth before the crossposter broke (since I never use Dreamwidth I haven't bothered fixing it). It also goes to Facebook, and someday will probably go to Google +. In theory this means that my content will live somewhere, even if one or more services fail. (And since I own my domain, even if my hosting company dies I should be able to get up and running with a new one.)

As far as reading goes, I still read LJ for the friends-locked posts. Most people who don't lock posts have been getting moved to Google Reader, which I find a nicer interface for reading lots of things. I rarely add people on LJ anymore. It's just easier for me to have everything in one place.
Jul. 30th, 2011 03:11 pm (UTC)
I like Google Reader. Very time-saving :)
Jul. 30th, 2011 03:00 pm (UTC)
I have a permanent account. I'm not going anywhere.
Jul. 30th, 2011 03:12 pm (UTC)
Yay! :)
Jul. 30th, 2011 03:08 pm (UTC)
I'll be staying here as long as they'll have me, but it doesn't hurt for me to start looking at alternatives and mirrors.
Jul. 30th, 2011 09:28 pm (UTC)
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst, right? :)
Jul. 30th, 2011 03:13 pm (UTC)
I moved my blog to Blogger a ways back because the service didn't offer the features I wanted. None of the blogging platforms are perfect -- WordPress get hacked a lot, which lets people put viruses and other crap on your sites -- but LJ is what it is.
Jul. 30th, 2011 09:28 pm (UTC)
I didn't know that about WordPress.
Jul. 30th, 2011 03:13 pm (UTC)
Technically, LJ is already my mirror I post to DW and they cross-post automatically. But I'm not leaving LJ, too many good communities and DW isn't big enough to replace it. Plus, there are people here that haven't moved and I want to keep up with them. And I love the syndicated feeds, it's kept me from having to learn/deal with a blog reader.
Jul. 30th, 2011 09:29 pm (UTC)
Google reader's pretty good - I use it for all my non-lj friends' blogs.
Jul. 30th, 2011 03:14 pm (UTC)
If you're a politically motivated group and you pull this on me, watch me get stubborn. I ain't leaving.
Jul. 30th, 2011 09:34 pm (UTC)
Lol, me neither :)
Jul. 30th, 2011 03:35 pm (UTC)
I should have answered 2. LJ is my fave blogging platform because it's the most conversational and I love the user pics, but I'll probably start mirroring my posts someplace.
Jul. 30th, 2011 09:35 pm (UTC)
I'm going to wait awhile. I figure the attacks will either intensify or LJ will get better defenses.
Jul. 30th, 2011 04:04 pm (UTC)
I'm staying (with a mirror).
Jul. 30th, 2011 09:35 pm (UTC)
On reflection, that may prove the smart choice ;)
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Jul. 30th, 2011 09:34 pm (UTC)
Ten years? That's a lot of blogging :)
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Jul. 30th, 2011 04:44 pm (UTC)
Having lived and worked in London while the IRA were lobbing bombs and rockets around and not changed my habits I will be damned if I give up LJ because that KBG midget's minions want to abuse a place where a lot more than their 'opponents' come to engage in civilised discourse. I - like many others - may end up going elsewhere but that sound you can hear is my fingernails being dragged down a chalk cliff. I will not give those f***ers the satisfaction.
Jul. 30th, 2011 09:37 pm (UTC)
Lol, oh Martyn, Martyn, Martyn, you left out a couple of asterisks. You know 'foreigners' has more than seven letters :)
Jul. 30th, 2011 04:49 pm (UTC)
I wanted to tick both 1 and 2 because though I will carry on using LJ for as long as there is an LJ, during the recent downtime I used Dreamwidth, Twitter and Google+ to keep in touch with people.

Once things settled down, I copied the posts across to LJ so that my journal was complete.

I do backup my LJ using LJ-Archive, which is a very useful piece of software that takes a copy of your posts and any comments received and stores them on your own computer.
Jul. 30th, 2011 09:37 pm (UTC)
Doesn't that take up a lot of space?
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Jul. 30th, 2011 05:26 pm (UTC)
It's annoying but I won't be driven from my home!
Jul. 30th, 2011 09:37 pm (UTC)
They may take our blogs, but they'll never take our...er, blogs :)
Jul. 30th, 2011 08:42 pm (UTC)
I've started posting at Dreamwidth and mirroring my posts here after the last attack. Feels better to have everything elsewhere. But otherwise I am not really using DW, not reading my flist there, nothing. LJ ist such a wonderful and cozy place ... I just sometimes wish, as harsh as it may sound, they never sold it to the Russians *grumbles*
Jul. 30th, 2011 09:38 pm (UTC)
Lol, I know what you mean, but at least they're putting it to good use, right? :)
Jul. 30th, 2011 10:35 pm (UTC)
I wanted to check both of the first two options, but it wasn't that kind of poll. I'm not willing to give in to bullies, and I love it here on LJ--but I'm also not willing to lose what I've built here. So mirroring seems like the best idea. It's a backup, not because I want to leave, but because backups are important.

And because friends are important--more important than where you get together, no matter how beloved the hang-out.
Jul. 31st, 2011 09:27 am (UTC)
Sometimes, it helps to have a plan B. It certainly provides peace of mind :)
Jul. 30th, 2011 11:02 pm (UTC)
I've been with Livejournal for 10 years! I can't imagine leaving. Nor can I imagine all my lj friends leaving :(
Jul. 31st, 2011 09:32 am (UTC)
If this straw poll is anything to go by, nobody's going anywhere quite yet :)
Jul. 30th, 2011 11:11 pm (UTC)
Knowing the reasons for the attacks makes me feel all the more committed to sticking with LJ. I'm not about to let enemies of free speech bully me out of here.
Anyone know a good counter-hacker?!

(Is that a word? Is that even possible?)
Jul. 31st, 2011 09:33 am (UTC)
It would be nice to think there's a way of giving a little payback fending off an attack.
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Jul. 31st, 2011 07:33 am (UTC)
When you say Wordpress, do you mean a free Wordpress blog on the Wordpress site or your own blog on your own domain using the Wordpress blogging software?

The second option puts your site totally under your own control whilst also making it very easy for non-experts to update the site easily.
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Jul. 31st, 2011 01:04 am (UTC)
I already mirror LiveJournal from my personal WordPress installation (ljxp just got an update, unrelated though). I do the same with Facebook and Twitter, thought Twitter does get a bit more traffic since I use that as a chat system too. In general, while I answer comments on all of them, I'd rather only post from a single place. I'll mirror over on Google+ as soon as they get a Google+ cross-poster for WordPress.

I happen to have a perm account here, so I see no reason to go anywhere else. I don't get much comment traffic here anymore, but... in reality, I've never gotten a lot of traffic anyways.

It is sad that people will DDoS for political reasons. I may not agree with someone, but I still fight for their right to say it.
Jul. 31st, 2011 09:47 am (UTC)
Sadly, too many folks use their free speech to shout other people down :(
Jul. 31st, 2011 01:46 am (UTC)
I started mirroring my blog on Blogspot a while back. But I still get more views and more comments here on LJ, for all that people claim LJ is on the way out. I prefer most of the features on LJ and the way they have things set up. But it was nice to have my other blog this week. I missed the LJ crowd, though.

I'll stay as long as there is a site here, and as long as other people are around, reading and commenting and posting.
Jul. 31st, 2011 09:44 am (UTC)
'...for all that people claim LJ is on the way out'

When I do my blog talks, I always log out of LJ, then check out the homepage to see their stats. Back in November, they had a little under 33 million accounts. Last time I looked, they had just under 40 million. I don't know how many of these folks are English speaking, but as a worldwide host, LJ certainly doesn't seem on the way out to me :)
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Jul. 31st, 2011 03:48 am (UTC)
I don't intend to leave. I've got a cross post going on with DW, but that was set up for other reasons than these latest troubles for reasons to do with LJ's service choices, etc. However, I keep it more in the event that something catastrophic happens, and not because I intend to walk away from LJ.
Jul. 31st, 2011 09:51 am (UTC)
I don't have Dreamwidth or even Google+ (yet). I have MySpace hand blogspot accounts, but I don't use them. Like you, I jkeep them in case of emergenct (though I don't think I'll ever use the MySpace one).
Jul. 31st, 2011 11:20 am (UTC)
I'll absolutely be sticking with LJ; I've made too many lovely friends here since starting my blog last summer. Besides, so what if LJ is down for a few days - so am I sometimes!
Jul. 31st, 2011 04:03 pm (UTC)
Lol, now you mention it, me too :)
Jul. 31st, 2011 03:35 pm (UTC)
I'm staying. I have two paid accounts here. The outage was annoying, but it's not LJ's fault. If it gets really bad at some later point I might mirror my content, but eh, I have so many social media accounts I really hate to add more.
Jul. 31st, 2011 04:04 pm (UTC)
I know what you mean. There are only so many online accounts to keep up with before it gets to be time drag.
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